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Karizma vs Pulsar [s]

nEo — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:50:35 +0000

In almost everybike forums,blogs and where ever guys get a chance to talk about indian bikes, the hottest topic for the last 2~3 years is “Which one is the best? Pulsar or Karizma?? ”

To me, both bikes are good, but both have much to evolve. The good thing is one of them is evolving where the other one which had an upperhand once is staying where it started. But still, both bikes are excellent performance bikes ,ofcourse in Indian Standards. Here is one genuine comment i got for one of my posts about Karizma FI from ‘Sreek’

hi all readers…

To start things off, i have been riding the KARIZMA for the past 2 years. It is, with out a shadow of a doubt, an excellent bike on all respects. I have nothing but sheer respect towards the KARIZMA. To simply put it, HH is a legend maker. CBZ, the first premium sports bike in India and then they took it quite a few steps further with KARIZMA. its definetly a legend too. Bajaj, i feel is a trend follower or rather a trend improviser.

and now coming to the twist in the tale…

last week i sold off my 2 year old best friend, KARIZMA only to find a better friend in a beast which goes by the name PULASR 220 DTS-FI.

Its just been a week now, but the only thing I can say about PULASR 220 DTS-FI is that “I AM IMPRESSED”. I know that it is almost impossible to impress the KARIZMA riders simply because they are used to ride the best. But trust me when I say, even after riding the KARIZMA for 2 years, the PULASR 220 DTS-FI impressed me.

Factually speaking, there in not much to be compared between the 2 amazing performance bikes. Both of them are quick, fast and both look awesome. The PULASR 220 DTS-FI is technologically advanced though.

KARIZMA looks and feels intimidatingly big. Its has definitely got that big bike feel to it. And this is exactly whats missing with the PULASR 220 DTS-FI.
May be this is a not such a bad thing after all. Even though the PULASR 220 DTS-FI looks smaller and much compact, it surely feels much quicker than the KARIZMA. And to some extent it really is too.

I don’t really want to comment on the mileage and the quality part of it because I really don’t care much and I am sure that none of u readers do either. But just for information, my old friend, KARIZMA used to return 33kmpl which may be considered exceptional. And my new friend is returning around 36kmpl. and about the overall build quality, KARIZMA is better. no doubts. (any HH is)

As I have said, technologically the PULASR 220 DTS-FI is a few steps ahead of the KARIZMA. The PULASR 220 DTS-FI’s head lights are nothing short of amazing. And the rear disc and the clip handle bar and faring mounted mirrors add to the overall style statement of the PULASR 220 DTS-FI.

The bottom line is that both of them are undisputable very very good performance bikes and neither of them can ever disappoint anyone anytime anyhow. The KARIZMA (17 bhp) is fast but the PULASR 220 DTS-FI (20 bhp) is just that much faster. But if any of you wnat an exact answer, either the KARIZMA or the PULASR 220 DTS-FI, guess what, its an unending argument.

All said and done, I still have the utmost respect for the KARIZMA but as of now, I am totally in love (or lust) with the PULASR 220 DTS-FI.

And just to mention about both bikes oooomph!!!…. When I used to ride the KARIZMA people on the road, especially the young ones used to point out and say “wow…hey look karizmaaaaa” and I am sure it still happens to a lot of you KARIZMA riders. But now, with the PULASR 220 DTS-FI, the only reaction I am getting is “wwwwwwwoooooooowwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh”. (for those of you who are wondering what that is, its sheer amazement”.

Comparison is good and is a much needed one for a product if it need to evolve.But it should be genuine and purposeful.

Bajaj Pulsar 300??

nEo — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:00:02 +0000

One of my friend called me and said in a desperate voice.. “I changed my plan of buying Pulsar 220 after i saw the pulsar 300cc! Man its sexy!”..For a second i was shocked.Pulsar 300cc? Meanwhile he opened the spec sheet.. Monoshock, dual front disc, rear disc,……

Err..I was sure that it will be another hoax! And seeing the picture of so called BajajPulsar 300cc , i confirmed it. But i should say , it really looks great even though its a photoshopped image.

Pulsar 300 Fake

Currently there are many versions of these photoshopped images claiming that they are pulsar 300cc.

Currently Bajaj has no ‘Official’ Plans to release a 300cc Version of Pulsar Series.Who ever started this hoax by editing this picture , i admire him for his creativity.

Pulsar 200cc Officially Launched!

nEo — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 04:53:27 +0000

NEW DELHI: Bajaj Auto is targeting to cross the Rs. 10,000-crore turnover mark this fiscal with sales of 2.8 million vehicles, Rajiv Bajaj, Managing Director, said here on Tuesday.

Launching the company’s new 200 cc `Pulsar’ motorcycle, Mr. Bajaj told reporters that the company expected a topline growth of 25 per cent over the last fiscal, even as it focussed on higher engine capacity and sporty performance motorcycles for its future course with a slew of launches scheduled.

“By May, the Pulsar 220 cc with fuel injection will be launched and the following month the 200 cc cruiser bike Avenger should hit the market,” Mr. Bajaj said. The company had made a conscious decision to move away from the lower margin, low capacity bikes and would give emphasis on higher cubic capacity motorcycles.

“We are increasing production of Pulsar and by June it should touch 60,000 units,” he said, adding that the company would gradually phase out its entry-level bikes `Platina’ and `CT-100.’

He said the to-be-launched fuel injection technology DTS-i 220 cc bike could cost about Rs. 80,000-Rs 85,000, while the just launched 200 cc Pulsar DTS-i had been priced at Rs. 65,497

Source : The Hindu

So thats a much awaited news! the official launch date of Pulsar 220cc DtsFi . Now we may hope that Bajaj wont shifts from the ‘officially’ announced launch date! And about the pricing of Pulsar 200cc , its Perfect! I bought my 180cc for the same price.

Pulsar 200 cc DTsi Launched Officially

nEo — Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:13:36 +0000

I was not at home for a week now..And when i checked xbhp from my mobile, i was amused to see the launch news of pulsar 200 in mumbai. And at the same time felt frustrated for not being able to update my blog with p200 news.. Now , having tons of blogs praising pulsar 200 i am trying to collect as much info from fellow bloggers and websites .

My big thanks to Xbhp.com
All the news and pics shown below are taken from various posts in Xbhp forum. All the pics are taken by my fellow xbhpians. Credit goes for them!

Pros
1. The riding position itself is very sporty.
2. The handle bar is lower than P180.
3. The foot pegs are kicked back.
4. The acceleration is really amazing, definitely a blogger

(taken from rearset.blogspot.com) .From his own experiance…

Yes, I rode it. The 220, that is. And I’m remiss on the riding impression. So here goes. First of all, the two big questions.

Is it impressive?
Oh yes it is. Very much so. Without a doubt, it gets my vote for the best motorcycle in the country today. Overall. I still have a couple of bones to pick with it….
Karizma beater?
What’s a Karizma? You mean that little yellow speck in my fold-away, fairing-mounted, shapely mirrors?

Now for the guts and glory bits, eh?

Mechanically speaking
This is easily the most well-engineered Bajaj bike yet. It has an almost disappointing Honda-like civility. It’s not as noisy as the older Pulsars. And you could keep a coin on the tank and rev it to the moon (or rev limiter, whichever is earlier) without aforementioned coin sliding off. Gears snick into place with minimal fuss, the clutch take up is very progressive. Despite trying, I could not trick the gearbox into missing a shift, had no trouble finding neutral and it all worked just the way it should.

Performance
Which is why the bike (as I said) didn’t leave me as excited as I could have been. It’s too civil. Not that I want a harsh, vibey old thing, but that its too smooth in its power delivery. You almost don’t notice the speed. Not until I found a helpfully aggressive chap (220? Bajaj? Pchah! Race lagaayega?) on the aforementioned yellow Karizma did it become emphatically obvious how fast the thing really is (all usual disclaimers against racing on streets apply. Only did it because of the lack of space – to ride – and time – owner was getting itchy).

On its own, the digital tacho shows perpetually climbing numbers, the sounds rise a bit, the scenery blurs by a bit quicker. That’s it. I wish the FI curves were a bit more aggro. I don’t know if that’s possible but I do wish the bike blew harder from the word go. As in its too much of a gentlemen. I wish it’d punched me in the nose a couple of times, that would have helped the love and the excitement, eh?

Handling
On any terrain, nothing in India’s gonna catch it. Its surefooted, confident and can be relied on to get a move on. A couple of times, I caught myself not backing off even in dirty corners, expecting the whole package to just samba on without a twitch. And both times, that’s exactly what happened. Absolutely amazing. Astoundingly good, even. The chassis re-tune works. Period.

The Karizma upgrade will need to answer some hard, hard questions in corners when it comes.

And it isn’t a sportsbike for only the greatest of roads either. The 220 has gained a nice balance on the ride front too. It feels sporty and absorbs almost everything without as much as a raised eyebrow. I rode it through a stretch where cars and trucks has pretty much blasted off chunks of tarmac from the top layer. At high speed and at low speed. And I have nothing to report. No worries, no problems, no shocks, nothing. This is a truly great package.

More love for the brakes as well. They’re great. They talk to you through the fingers, have great power, and should stoppie the 220 easy (I didn’t try – I’d mooched the bike from a fairly reluctant owner; which is also not to say that I can, in fact, stoppie it in the first place).

Comfort
It’s comfy all right, but there is a hitch. The fixed fairing comes back a bit too much and unless you’re sitting so that the tailbone is touching the seatstep, your knees will be rubbing on the fairing. That’s a bit uncomfortable.I guess when you are riding it in jeans, I’d grip the tank quite hard before hitting the brakes hard. In riding pants, the armour has that privilege of being very intimate with the fairing end. Shorties – I’m guessing 5′5″ and below won’t notice this.

Read the rest of this review from the original author – Rearset.blogspot.com

Launched Pulsar 220 cc DTS Fi and Pulsar 200 cc !! Enjoy!

nEo — Tue, 26 Dec 2006 12:15:56 +0000

Thanks for showing interest in our products, we have opened a new experience showroom “BAJAJ PROBIKING” at Godrej Castle maine opp Wadia college bund garden road, Near Ruby hall clinic, Pune. This show room is for new generation professional bikers like you. I would like to invite you to experience this show room once to know more of our bikes (Pulsar 180cc,220 cc and Avenger) and services we offer. Pulsar 220 is available in Black, Red, and Blue color. On road price Pune for Pulsar 220 DTS Fi is Rs.83595/-. For further clarifications please feel free to contact our associate Mr Sachin on no. given below, ……..

This is what the pune show room replied for one querry about the the new pulsar 220cc DTsFi Price and availability. There was a strong rumour in leading bike forums about the Pune showroom displaying Pulsar DTSFi 220cc for sale and no one had the proof. Finally this email confirmed it all. Any one can confirm it by dialing – 66091111 – MR. SACHIN. (pune number)
Features :
1. F I
2. Proj Headlamps
3.Split Grab Rail
4.Split Seat
5.Rear Disc.
6.Digi goodies
7.Bigger Tyres
8.The most IMP PRICE ::::::::::::::::: 83,559 Rs!!!!!

The Price of Karizma in Pune is 83k! So that makes Pulsar 220cc a killing steal!! 3bhp and lots of guddies @ almost same price.!

And wait , Pulsar 200cc is also launched in Pune with 72000 RS.(on the Road)[[According to an XBHP member]] . But with FI and more power , 12k extra for a Pulsar 220cc seems to be a perfect option! So guys , thats the Xmas present from Bajaj!

Update : december 5 : 45 pm :

THere are three Pulsar 220Fi displayed! Blue, Red and Black..
The bookings have started and 10 have already been booked..THere is a waiting of 10 to 12 days for the black colour but the blue one is available off the shelf!
The price is 83450 on road..
The bikeThis is a comment from an xbhp user who personally checked the pro biking showroom in pune.

First Responses from Users :
( Taken from Xbhp)

“My younger brother and rash went to see the bike, they were floored by the build quality and the amazing looks. And they dyno’d the Bike and got a 0-60 time of around 3.5 ~ seconds. Everyone was more then impressed. The only thing lacking (delebrately) are the black alloy wheels and engiene job, which I’m sure will be offered as a upgrade.” Heloo dudes …

I rode the 220FI today at the probiking showroom on the dynometer.Awsome is the only word i can speak.

the Bike went to 126kmph without a sweat … and toped out at 132kmph … but getting her to 132 needs a bit time … and reall hight rpm.

i grounded the engine till 11500rpm …. the engine real smooth … has a nice thumping sound .. but does become harsh passed 10000rpm ….

but over all the engine was excellent …

And about the fit and finish … its reall nice … i didnt see any flaw … the headlights are excellent … nice and powerfull.

and the Bike looks reall big from the front end …

In pune the bookin has already started … the guy said .. that if i book today … i’ll get the Bike by second week of jan.

The Bike is priced at around 84000 on road in pune …

Images :

Above Pics from Xbhp user DeaDrider

Rest of the pics by xbhp user Manav

Now the first news report about p220 launch -

Priced at Rs 84,000, about 20 units of the bike have already been booked.

Bajaj has launched its powerful motorcycle, Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi, in Pune, while Mumbaikars will have to wait till January for the bike.

The launch of Pulsar 220 was a low-profile affair, away from the media glare.

Priced at Rs 84,000, ex-showroom Pune, about 20 units of the bike have already been booked by customers with a down payment of Rs 10,000. A total of 35 units are allotted to the showroom and is sold on a first-come-first-serve basis. The next batch of the bikes will only be delivered by February.

The bike is expected to be launched in Mumbai by the second half of January next year. The bike will be in all the Bajaj showrooms across the country by the start of February.

In Mumbai, the bike will be priced in the range of Rs 87,000 to Rs 88,000, ex-showroom Mumbai.

Bajaj has gone for a soft launch technique known as ‘test launch’, wherein the company will be playing a wait-and-watch game to see the initial response.

Bajaj’s second big offering for 2007 is Pulsar 200, which is expected to be launched in January next month. Sources said the bike will be a direct launch, priced in the range of Rs 70,000 to Rs 80,000, ex-showroom Mumbai.

Interestingly, only those customers who are able to produce a proof of residence in Pune will be able to buy the vehicle.

The waiting period for Pulsar 220 is 10 to 12 days and is available in three colours – blue, black and red.

The bike will be directly pitted against the company’s arch rival Hero Honda’s Karizma, which is priced in the same range with relatively same power output. Hero Honda is also currently testing the fuel injected version of the Karizma with the launch slated for February-March 2007.

Bajaj Pulsar DTS-Fi 220 has a single-cylinder, air-cooled, 4-stroke engine, belting out 20 bhp of power with 1.95 kg of torque.

This results in high combustion efficiency and low performance variability between engines, precise metering of fuel for highest outputs and lower emissions. It also helps in easy engine starts in all-weather conditions and altitudes.

The bike also boasts of the best-in-class fuel economy with natural, air-cooled, 4-stroke engine employing a oil cooler, a first in India.

Taken from Business Standards

The email response shown in this post NOT received by me! Its taken from XBHP.com. After seeing it i called on a number given in that forum (Shown above) and confirmed it myself. About 200cc news and price , i got it from xbhp. So what i have confirmed personally is that pulsar 220 is available in pune and costs 83k. He said it will be released nation wide before january 20th.